How to Keep the 'Kooks' in Line -- Sandy McCroskey comes out swinging at Marsh...

On Wednesday, February 11, 2015 at 2:30:10 PM UTC-6, Sandy McCroskey wrote:
> On 2/9/15 9:47 PM, Anthony Marsh wrote:
> > On 2/7/2015 5:25 PM, Marcus Hanson wrote:
> >> "I'm against censorship, but persons like Mr Von Pein have crossed a line
> >> where they no longer deserve fair hearing amongst honest people."
> >>
> >> Typical lefty comment - not in favour of censorship....UNLESS a contrary
> >> opinion is not well received.
> >>
> >> The poster Albert Doyle was - IMO - "brought into line" by an ex-DPF-er
> >> for straying from the CT orthodoxy. It's been a long time since I read
> >> his
> >> posts,but after reproval,IIRC,he toed the line like a good boy.
> >>
> >> Here,we don't all have to agree on every point(even on the LN side) or
> >> worry about getting approval from John.
> >>
> >
> > But there is a big difference. There is no level playing field here.
> > McAdams brings in minions to attack conspiracy believers and then does
> > not let the conspiracy believers defend themselves. He allows his
> > minions to call me a liar, but forbids me from calling anyone a liar.
> > One of your guys wanted to have McAdams BAN me because I pointed out
> > that he was wrong about something.
> >
>
> This is just a paranoid rant.

Only in Sandy's world...to the rest of the world it is called 'another opinion.'

>McAdams doesn't "bring in" anybody, and
> you call people liars all the time, Marsh, by blatant innuendo.

Really?  Marsh has to be careful what he says or his posts are rejected.  Those of the WC defenders who call CTs 'liars' are not.  In addition, doesn't trying to dump strawmen on CTs and make them stick eerily equate to calling them 'liars' by 'blatant innuendo'?  If so, wouldn't that be the pot calling the kettle black?
>
> Now, if you want a level playing field, why don't you "bring in" some CTs
> who know how to evaluate evidence, who give proper weight to hard evidence
> (as opposed to, say, purported "witness" testimony that is decades old),
> and who can recognize when things are physically impossible and when
> theories are absolutely preposterous?

That is hilarious, from one who seems to have a challenge playing on a level field.  And also somewhat inappropriate from one who seems to have a penchant for developing complicated strawmen and then making demands that CTs answer from them...LOL...
>
> Instead, look at whom you've got on your side.

Well, reason, for one.
>
> It's not a level playing field at all, I'll grant you that.
> But, hey... that ain't the LNs' fault.
>
No it isn't.  LN's are trained to be 'sheeple'.  It is, however, the fault of anyone who understands critical thinking who then uses their influence to train people to be sheeple.  

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Pamela Brown
mcadamsexperiment.blogspot.com

Just for Marsh -- Stop Stealing our Snow!

At first it was cute -- the odd coincidence of a storm hitting MA, where Marsh lives, on January 27th, Mozart's birthday, as Marsh pounds away at his pc trying to 'deny deny deny' any odd coincidence between "Minnesota" and "Monostatos".  In fact, the hardest hit town of "Juno" was "Marshfield, MA".

But by now you've also had Linus, Marcus, and now Neptune.  Over 7 feet of snow!  That's what we usually get in Minnesota. Right now, as I look out my window, there is barely a dusting of snow on the ground! An inch or two at most!

It's not funny anymore.  We are having a very wimpy winter here.  Just sprinkles of snow, and a bit of cold.  Minnesotans love snow and crave the cold.  In fact, the snowier the better.  The colder the better.  Knowing that we will have cold and SNOW is, in fact, how we manage to endure the other six months of warm and clement weather.

I've had enough of your stealing our snow...:-(

Cut it out...

Pamela

PS My horse doesn't like this either...:-0

"Sandy-speak" at its best…aaj reply

On Wednesday, February 11, 2015 at 2:27:27 PM UTC-6, Sandy McCroskey wrote:
> On 2/9/15 9:56 PM, Anthony Marsh wrote:
> > On 2/7/2015 5:11 PM, Sandy McCroskey wrote:
> >> On 2/6/15 11:41 PM, Anthony Marsh wrote:
> >>> On 2/5/2015 9:00 PM, Sandy McCroskey wrote:
> >>>> On 2/4/15 9:20 PM, Pamela Brown wrote:
> >>>>> On Tuesday, February 3, 2015 at 7:38:11 PM UTC-6, Sandy McCroskey
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>> On 2/3/15 12:33 AM, Pamela Brown wrote:
> >>>>>>> Last week, McCroskey and Marsh marched forward with their "deny,
> >>>>>>> deny,
> >>>>>>> deny" theory that there *could* be absolutely no connection between
> >>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>> term *Monostatos* coined in 1791 in Mozart's opera The Magic Flute
> >>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>> "Minnesota", a state which did not exist until the 1800's, much less
> >>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>> "Minnesota" Orchestra which did not exist until its name was
> >>>>>>> changed in
> >>>>>>> 1968.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> We were only pointing out what is obvious to everyone on the planet
> >>>>>> besides Pamela Brown.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> False.  Do you really think anyone believes McCroskey, who undoubtedly
> >>>>> has
> >>>>> so much else on his plate, would go out of his way for over two weeks
> >>>>> for
> >>>>> something that he sincerely believes *only* affects one person on the
> >>>>> planet?
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Why not?
> >>>> It takes just a few minutes to read your posts and even less to
> >>>> respond,
> >>>> Pamela.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Surely McCroskey recalls when he decided to jump into the
> >>>>> conversation? It
> >>>>> happened during a discussion of libel, the moment a 200M arts
> >>>>> organization
> >>>>> was mentioned...
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> I have the feeling you are trying to imply that I am mixed up that
> >>>> situation in some way.
> >>>>
> >>>> Yet I have no doubt that absolutely nobody in that arts
> >>>> organization, or
> >>>> the Minnesota Orchestra, or in the state of Minnesota, or in Mozart
> >>>> studies gives a damn about the silly ideas you've expressed here. If
> >>>> you
> >>>> have made your theories known, I am sure you have found nobody who
> >>>> takes
> >>>> them seriously. Although crazier things have been known to happen, for
> >>>> sure, and history has recorded many strange cults.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Then why have people written articles, books and movies about Mozart
> >>> being killed?
> >>>
> >>
> >> Talk about a non sequitur. Downright surreal. As in "How many
> >> surrealists does it take to screw in a lightbulb?" "Fish."
> >>
> >> Marsh, do you think Mozart's being killed, if he was, had anything to do
> >> with the Minnesota Orchestra, the state of Minnesota or the selection by
> >> Ms. Brown's parents of her first name?
> >>
> >
> > I said I don't think he was killed.
> >
> What difference does that make?
>
> I'm saying that the prior conspiracy theories about Mozart's death,
> whatever you think about them (who cares?), clearly have nothing to do
> with Pamela Brown's fantasies.
>
> >> I don't! Call me skeptical...
> >>
> >
> > I'll call you what Brian Williams said he is. He denies lying and said
> > he just CONFLATED the events. So he's a conflationist. You conflated
> > what Pamela said with what I said. So likewise you are a conflationist.
> > I think you guys have your own lodge.
> >
>
> You are as confused as you usually are these days.
> I said you brought up something irrelevant to Pamela's wild imaginings.
> That is the farthest thing from conflating the two.
>
> And I think you must have just learned the word "conflate" recently,
> because you have been using it every chance you get.
>
>
>
> > So you are attacking me because I attacked Pamela? What a gentleman.
> >
>
> Another non sequitur. Your special talent.
>
> I said I am sure nobody takes Pamela's notions seriously, and you said,
> "Then why have people written articles, books and movies about Mozart
> being killed?"
>
> If you were attacking Pamela, you must have been doing it in some kind
> of code that only she can read.

Is this another example of "Sandy-logic"?  Care to clarify?

BTW, may I ask, with all due respect, just what color the sky is in Sandy's world today? :-0

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McCroskey unsuccessfully tries to distract readers from yet another series of odd coincidences…:-0

On Tuesday, February 3, 2015 at 7:38:11 PM UTC-6, Sandy McCroskey wrote:
> On 2/3/15 12:33 AM, Pamela Brown wrote:
> > Last week, McCroskey and Marsh marched forward with their "deny, deny,
> > deny" theory that there *could* be absolutely no connection between the
> > term *Monostatos* coined in 1791 in Mozart's opera The Magic Flute and
> > "Minnesota", a state which did not exist until the 1800's, much less the
> > "Minnesota" Orchestra which did not exist until its name was changed in
> > 1968.
> >
>
> We were only pointing out what is obvious to everyone on the planet
> besides Pamela Brown.
>
False.  Do you really think anyone believes McCroskey, who undoubtedly has so much else on his plate, would go out of his way for over two weeks for something that he sincerely believes *only* affects one person on the planet?

Surely McCroskey recalls when he decided to jump into the conversation? It happened during a discussion of libel, the moment a 200M arts organization was mentioned...
>
> > However, to their surprise, during that same time a blizzard was
> > barrelling toward Boston, where Marsh lives.  It happened to hit on
> > January 27th, which is Mozart's birthday.  And of all the towns affected,
> > the one hardest-hit was -- "Marshfield" MA....
> >
> > I find these a series of odd coincidences, not unlike "Monostatos" and
> > "Minnesota"...
> >
> > And I find the circumstances ironic...not to mention Linus, which is
> > giving Marsh yet another "taste of Minnesota"...
> >
>
>
> Oh, wait... This must be a put-on.

Here we go again -- McCroskey's response to a series of odd coincidences.
>
> Pamela alerted me recently to her being in possession of a "sense of
> humor."

One might get the impression McCroskey has no concept of one readily available to him...
>
> After all, the fact that a town near Boston has a name that partly echoes
> that of someone who lives in that area only means that "Marsh" is not an
> uncommon element of names in that part of the country.

Dip and dive...
>
> And the fact that a storm hit that town on Mozart's birthday (!) is
> significant only to Pamela Brown (and to no one else) only because she has
> been arguing with Anthony Marsh about her self-referential interpretation
> of a particular Mozart opera.[...]

Incorrect.

Marsh was been in 'deny, deny' deny' mode about any possible connection between the term "Monostatos", used by Mozart for a wicked character in the 1791 opera The Magic Flute and "Minnesota" as in the "Minnesota Orchestra", while a storm socked the town where he lived on Mozart's birthday, hitting hardest a town with his name, "Marshfield"....

I guess that's also called irony....

Pamela Brown
http://mcadamsexperiment.blogspot.com

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